Somehow, your post slipped by my radar. I love it and your solid description of ROP and how it can benefit all of us.

Thanks also for the call to not dumb down the language for the everyguy. YES. thank you. I have come full circle with this one as I tried for over a year to meet men where they are in language they can get by dumbing it down. Even calling myself a coach instead of a therapist b/c so many men are adverse to therapy.

Love it bro. THANK YOU

My name is Bruno Goffin.
Goffin means: the peace of god.
I quite like my family name. I have been carying it now for almost 68 years.

All my adult life I was a boy in the body of an adult.
In the year 2006 I discovered the ManKindProject and during an NWTA in Magaliesburg (Gauteng, South Africa) I was initiated as a new warrior.
It litterally changed my life.
I started on a fascinating journey that will never end. It has brought me a life of being instead of having, a life of accepting and connecting.
Living in Spain, I miss my connection with my MKP brothers. For that reason I am wrestling with the idea of starting a circle of men on the Spanish Costa Blanca.
An Englsi MKP brother redirected me to your blog.
It is a gold mine.
Thanks.
With Love

Bruno

Somehow, your post slipped by my radar. I love it and your solid description of ROP and how it can benefit all of us.

Thanks also for the call to not dumb down the language for the everyguy. YES. thank you. I have come full circle with this one as I tried for over a year to meet men where they are in language they can get by dumbing it down. Even calling myself a coach instead of a therapist b/c so many men are adverse to therapy.

Love it bro. THANK YOU

My name is Bruno Goffin.
Goffin means: the peace of god.
I quite like my family name. I have been carying it now for almost 68 years.

All my adult life I was a boy in the body of an adult.
In the year 2006 I discovered the ManKindProject and during an NWTA in Magaliesburg (Gauteng, South Africa) I was initiated as a new warrior.
It litterally changed my life.
I started on a fascinating journey that will never end. It has brought me a life of being instead of having, a life of accepting and connecting.
Living in Spain, I miss my connection with my MKP brothers. For that reason I am wrestling with the idea of starting a circle of men on the Spanish Costa Blanca.
An Englsi MKP brother redirected me to your blog.
It is a gold mine.
Thanks.
With Love

Bruno

This is why I applaud the type of work you are doing much more so than many other types of coaching and support work. It is addressing a root cause of many of the serious problems we face as a society. With the lack of older and wiser men to guide this process, men like us since the 80's (compassionately led by Bly, Meade, Moore, Gilette, et al, with a strong dose of influence from Joseph Campbell) have had to conduct their own retroactive rites of passage. These are the men that future history will thank in part for saving our species from self-descruction.

…now, a concluding tangent regarding how men's rites of passage and mentoring work is being packaged and promoted by some otherwise really gifted teachers. I understand the need to contextualize the importance of this work in “benefits” that are relevant to the men that most need to do this work. I get it – men of different types require different motivations for them to see the value in this. And I also know that the circumstances for recruiting men into this work are different than they used to be. Traditionally, the older men came and took the boys away whether they wanted to go or not. Now, these 20/30-year-old men have to be tricked into it by promising that women will be more attracted to them, they'll be *happier* with themselves, and so on if they do the work. The 40/50-year-old men don't have to be tricked anymore. Many of them come to this work because their immature behavior has been the cause of much pain and trauma for them and their families and friends …it's a choice of last resort to rescue broken lives – kind of like going into a 12-step program.

I'd like to see another voice start to sneak their way into these Tweets, Facebook posts, and other web appeals: “If you do this work you'll be able to regard yourself with pride and you'll actually be aligned with patterns that will redeem not condemn our species and life on this planet.”

I'd love for men to be able to get in touch with their gentler sides and meet and talk to the rockin' hot woman of their dreams, but WTF?! Let's tighten up the message a bit.

This work isn't about playing around in “self actualization” land at the top of Maslow's heirarchy of needs. This is fundametal to the structural integrity of our global society.

Men's work facilitators, give your audience some credit and don't dumb down to the “Everyman” …men are smart, intellectually savvy creatures with a generally strong predisposition to reason and accountability. Let's speak to them like adults and maybe they begin to act like adults.

Thanks for reading/hosting that tangent. This blogspot feels very accomodating to these sentiments.

Be well,

Manny Otto
mythosforcreatives.com