Comments on: The 4 Noble Truths: How To Work With Pleasure And Pain http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/ unconventional spiritual development for men Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Syc http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-338 Syc Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:14:48 +0000 http://revolutionaryman.com/?p=976#comment-338 Really enjoyed this post, once we become 'real' with ourselves (i.e. honest) that we have emotions...and we experience all of them across the spectrum, life becomes a flow. Even so, this is a life long journey of self-awareness. I have found in my own life that acknowledging the feelings I have help me move forward because I realize another state of being is around the corner. As I read my own comment, I realize that Truth 3 resonates the strongest with me. Really enjoyed this post, once we become ‘real’ with ourselves (i.e. honest) that we have emotions…and we experience all of them across the spectrum, life becomes a flow. Even so, this is a life long journey of self-awareness. I have found in my own life that acknowledging the feelings I have help me move forward because I realize another state of being is around the corner. As I read my own comment, I realize that Truth 3 resonates the strongest with me.

]]> By: Campbell http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-337 Campbell Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:16:52 +0000 http://revolutionaryman.com/?p=976#comment-337 Dude, this is some straight clear wisdom. Really appreciate the layman's post. Clean plate club, eat your whole meal, digest, be nourished. I f*ckin start to get that. dang. Some of experience does not taste good, but as I've heard from a wise man recently, if it is truth it is nourishing. Thanks. Appreciate. -Campbell Dude, this is some straight clear wisdom. Really appreciate the layman’s post. Clean plate club, eat your whole meal, digest, be nourished.

I f*ckin start to get that. dang. Some of experience does not taste good, but as I’ve heard from a wise man recently, if it is truth it is nourishing.

Thanks. Appreciate.

-Campbell

]]> By: Joshua Gribschaw-Beck http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-336 Joshua Gribschaw-Beck Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:11:34 +0000 http://revolutionaryman.com/?p=976#comment-336 To me this all sounds like an oxymoron. Truth 4 is to do exactly what Buddah suggests is the cause of sufffering in Truth 2... That said, in my experience...the more I step in to my pain and step in to my pleasure and allow it...the more fulfilled and alive I feel. Truth 2 "In other words, suffering starts and grows by our own desire to get rid of it." Truth 4 "The way to end suffering is the eightfold path and the path of ethical conduct, meditation and mindfulness." I will admit....meditation and mindfulness have led to me allowing whatever is to be (including emotional pain) in my moment......and I experience being more alive and fulfilled more often...the question for me now is....are these feelings of aliveness and fulfillment "pleasure" or is that something else....perhaps flashes of "enlightenment" or "peace". To me this all sounds like an oxymoron. Truth 4 is to do exactly what Buddah suggests is the cause of sufffering in Truth 2… That said, in my experience…the more I step in to my pain and step in to my pleasure and allow it…the more fulfilled and alive I feel.

Truth 2 “In other words, suffering starts and grows by our own desire to get rid of it.”

Truth 4
“The way to end suffering is the eightfold path and the path of ethical conduct, meditation and mindfulness.”

I will admit….meditation and mindfulness have led to me allowing whatever is to be (including emotional pain) in my moment……and I experience being more alive and fulfilled more often…the question for me now is….are these feelings of aliveness and fulfillment “pleasure” or is that something else….perhaps flashes of “enlightenment” or “peace”.

]]> By: Brad Engel http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Brad Engel Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:36:55 +0000 http://revolutionaryman.com/?p=976#comment-335 Recommended reading: Ram Dass' Journey of Awakening, A Meditator's Guidebook. The oldy-but-goody suggests a great exercise. As I remember it, after entering your meditative state, visualize your thoughts as several different leaves floating by you on a slow-moving stream. As they come into focus, neither reject them nor accept them. Or, neither cling to them or fight them. They're there, so just let them flow. You'll be AMAZED at what flows by you, and when you emerge you'll be more at peace with them. Recommended reading: Ram Dass’ Journey of Awakening, A Meditator’s Guidebook. The oldy-but-goody suggests a great exercise.

As I remember it, after entering your meditative state, visualize your thoughts as several different leaves floating by you on a slow-moving stream. As they come into focus, neither reject them nor accept them. Or, neither cling to them or fight them. They’re there, so just let them flow. You’ll be AMAZED at what flows by you, and when you emerge you’ll be more at peace with them.

]]> By: Fabio http://www.jaysongaddis.com/2009/08/the-4-noble-truths-how-to-work-with-pleasure-and-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-334 Fabio Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:03:05 +0000 http://revolutionaryman.com/?p=976#comment-334 Me likes. I enjoy how you gave practical advice based on the 4 noble truths. Me likes.

I enjoy how you gave practical advice based on the 4 noble truths.

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